Posted: 2017-09-27 12:06
If our observations lead us to believe that it takes a mind to create a mind, then it logically follows that the mind of God must also, therefore have been created. To attempt to argue otherwise is a case of special pleading.
If it DOESN’T take a mind to create a mind, then God need not have been created – but then, it logically follows that we didn’t need to be created, either.
8775 You’re right about this, and I think that’s why he said, for example, that matter contains only its “personal” information. But obviously he’s wrong there, too, such as in geology where a rock layer contains not only information about itself specifically, but also about the context and environment in which it formed, such as limestone layers that formed in warm shallow seas. And of course the examples go on and on, like a spectrum light from a distant galaxy passing through a gas cloud and picking up hydrogen absorption lines.
8775 Of course, if the above is true, then DNA is not a code meeting this definition.
8775 It can not be conveyed in any other way and still “work”. It is pure chemistry and the “sender” and “receiver” are chemical reactions which have to have it in it’s chemical form. 8776
The scientific model of creation, in summary, includes the scientific evidence for a sudden creation of complex and diversified kinds of life, with systematic gaps persisting between different kinds and with genetic variation occurring within each kind since that time. The scientific model of evolution, in summary, includes the scientific evidence for a gradual emergence of present life kinds over aeons of time, with emergence of complex and diversified kinds of life from simpler kinds and ultimately from nonliving matter. The creation model questions vertical evolution, which is the emergence of complex from simple and change between kinds, but it does not challenge what is often called horizontal evolution or microevolution, which creationists call genetic variation or species or subspecies formation within created kinds. The following chart lists seven aspects of the scientific model of creation and of the scientific model of evolution:
Please do some research, Halton Arp is alive and well and researching at this moment. Making it up does not impress me. You are a smart guy but you are brainwashed and 8775 know 8776 that anyone who disagrees with the party line is an idiot whether they be Christian or atheist so you have no need to study opposing views. Arp is right , the Big Bang is a joke. Christian theologians argued against it is the 7nd century. It is an assumption even Hubble 8775 reluctantly 8776 admitted was just one possible interpretation of red shift.
"It's hard to imagine two ways of looking at the cosmos that could be more different than modern cosmology and LDS doctrine. For example, LDS doctrine regarding astronomy is permeated with references to time being measured, or "reckoned" according to a star's or planet's rate of rotation. Furthermore, this "reckoning of time" is a prime distinguisher in terms of "greatness." From the standpoint of modern cosmology, this makes no sense at all. Rates of rotation are largely arbitrary, and of little comment or concern from a fundamental point of is little correlation between a planet's rate of rotation and either its size or mass.
Again, as I posted earlier, archeological sites such as Gobekli Tepe indicate functioning agricultural societies as far back as 55,555 years ago. Neanderthals died out about 85,555 years ago and we know for a fact that they bred with humans. Do you have any non-speculative evidence (other than biblical genealogies and chronologies) that humans began a mere 6,555 years ago? Also, does it matter to Christians? If so, how?
8775 Information can be encoded in ways that are not symbolic. With a finite set of symbols, how are you going to define a symbolic representation of the infinite range of pitch and volume used by our military sentry? How are you going to represent the continuous changes in amplitude of the human voice modulated onto an AM radio signal? You can, of course, approximate them through analog-to-digital conversion, which is how music is encoded onto CD’s, but this is an approximation that while adequate for human hearing does not actually reproduce the original signal. 8776
Shallow really rocks through my mind right now. Proof is in the creation that surrounds all living things. I understand you mean more then what we all can clearly see and Faith, really? What big while you were alive like Moses you met God almighty? OH I know what you 8767 d say How do we know it 8767 s God? Even though you 8767 d be in God 8767 s presence and there would be no doubt because it 8767 s friggin God and you could see it with your eyes, but no your type would want an DNA sample right? It 8767 s ignorance like that that keeps you from meeting our God. Would God make you have faith if you met God and knew God is Real? What 8767 s Real Right? Just 6 reality and all others are simulations but did you ever think you could link all your 8775 You 8767 s 8776 in all those other dimensions and become the 8775 I am 8776 hive mind and then maybe just maybe you would have ascend like Jesus? Maybe we can all come back well except for the shallow ones that never make it. Peace
The heading for chapter 7 reads "As revealed to Joseph Smith the Prophet, in December, 6885. The first verse reads "And it came to pass that the Lord spake unto Moses saying: Behold, I reveal unto you concerning the heaven, and this earth write the words which I speak. I am the Beginning and the End, the Almighty God by mine only Begotten I created these things yea, in the beginning I created the heaven, and the earth upon which thou standest."
Of course our bodies run out before we do but you fail to understand we out grow our bodies and hence we leave it behind.
Now you need to find out why rather than using unproven myths as means of proving something is untrue and try and find the truth.
If you don 8767 t find the answer then what the hell (excuse the pun) what denotes a myth? How does a myth become a myth? Are all myths untrue ? Are myths an exaggeration of the truth ? What is the truth? Actually you must start with being true to yourself first otherwise it really would be a pointless quest.
Once isolated, geographically separated groups of individuals become genetically differentiated as a consequence of mutation and other processes, including natural selection. The origin of a species is often a gradual process, so that at first the reproductive isolation between separated groups of organisms is only partial, but it eventually becomes complete. Scientists pay special attention to these intermediate situations, because they help to reconstruct the details of the process and to identify particular genes or sets of genes that account for the reproductive isolation between species.
I found your website by accident, but I 8767 m happy I did. I earned my . in Evolutionary Biology and found your article on evolution disheartening. Rather than take the time to go through your article point-by-point, I thought I 8767 d see if there might be interest among your readers to revisit it. Evolution is a fact. Point-by-point your article is replete with misinformation and outdated concepts. I 8767 m not sure where you learned the information upon which you base your article, but suffice it to say the article needs vast revision with a focus on facts. I believe in God, but not the god of the Bible, so I 8767 m not interested in in a theological debate. Perhaps I could start with a question and see if there 8767 s any interest in pursuing the truth about evolution: Where did you obtain your information used in this article and why have you not revised it?
I find your topic a very interesting one, and as much as I 8767 d like to believe in all, I think there are still some flaws that prevent me from truely focusing on your premices, the first one: concerning the similarity between the genetic 8775 code 8776 and the word 8775 code 8776 or 8775 language 8776 , apearently there has been a great battle with this matter on the disscussion board ( http:////?t=685997 588 page=7 ).
And also, as far as I 8767 m concerned, random mutation is a double-edged event. It either 8775 fits 8776 (not necesarily enhancing the individual, but changing it) and survives, or, causes such a mutation that prevent the organism from working at all.
I 8767 m not done reading your whole work here, and if you 8767 ve already answered it, im sorry, no reply needed.
Thanks, it is really inspiring to hear hypothesis trying to unify facts with belief based in more arguments than religious totalitarism.
It was of these also that Enoch in the seventh generation from Adam prophesied, saying, Behold, the Lord came [or, will come ] with his holy myriads, to execute judgment on all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness which they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. (Jude 69, 65)
The term you 8767 re looking for is 8775 Special Pleading, 8776 and it happens all the time on this forum. Everything that we 8767 ve seen from humans has been designed, so naturally, we look at the universe, and assume it must have been designed also. Only human minds can create other human minds so our minds must originally have been created by another mind except for God, of course. This form of special pleading means that the rules apply to everything EXCEPT God.
Bishop Edgley further said: ''There are the so-called 'learned' that have let their intellect undermine their spiritual moorings and who would also attempt to lead the faithful away from those who are appointed by the Lord to lead. There are those who feel that our leaders are out of touch with the realities of the day. They would attempt to lead members by substituting their own knowledge for the revelations from God to His prophets. And, unfortunately, there are those who would so follow. Christ warned, 'Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.' '' (Matt. 7:65.) Link is here.
The Canopy Model, Dave and Mary Jo Nutting, Think & Believe, Vol 7 #6, Alpha Omega (Spotlight on Science) 6-7/85 p8 The canopy model has been proposed by many creationists to correlate data about earth history. Basically, the canopy model suggests that the earth was created with a blanket of water high above our atmosphere. Some think this canopy was in the form of ice or liquid water, while others feel it was in vapor form... Without the canopy, conditions on earth would be greatly different from before the flood.
Noah waited another seven days before the rains began. Ray C. Stedman suggests this may have been a memorial period for Methuselah who had just died. Again, it is difficult to see how some can claim that the Flood of Noah was local and not global. Why work building a great boat for 675 years preparing for a local flood? Why not simply climb the highest mountain or move to a different valley? Similarly, God promised he would never again destroy the earth in a flood like this one, yet great local floods have ravaged the earth down through the ages, killing millions. The Flood of Noah is clearly unique, it was one of a kind. The Hebrew word mabbul is used only in describing the Flood of Noah in the Old Testament. When the Old Testament was translated into Greek, the word kataklusmos was used in the Septuagint (LXX) in place of mabbul. This is the same word the Apostle Peter gives a great commentary on the Flood in his second letter, Chapter 8. That passage reads as follows,
The evidence used to argue for evolution is the exact same evidence used to argue for creationism or ID. We all live in the same universe, study the same stars , the same living creatures, the same plants ,the same rocks , the same fossils and we all use the exact same science to study these things with. Just in case I missed one perhaps you can give me one single example of a law of nature or major branch of modern science that was founded by an evolutionist? Good luck, there may be one but so far no evolutionist has ever been able to give me an example.
"Of course, I think those people who hold to the view that man has come up through all these ages from the scum of the sea through billions of years do not believe in Adam. Honestly I do not know how they can, and I am going to show you that they do not. There are some who attempt to do it but they are inconsistent - absolutely inconsistent, because that doctrine is so incompatible, so utterly out of harmony, with the revelations of the Lord that a man just cannot believe in both.